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The opposite of “win-win” situation?

farhad_persona
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I always thought that the opposite of “win-win” situation is “lose-lose” situation, but I’ve learned that lose-lose situation is one where a person has choices, but no choice leads to a good outcome.

So, what can I use to describe a situation in which there is a bad result for each person or group involved.

For example, I want to ask you to make up your mind about something and I tell you this:
This is a . situation. You need to make up your mind because you are wasting both your time and mine.

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farhad_persona
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Here’s the definition of no-win from LONGMAN:

relating to a situation in which whatever you choose to do it will have a bad result

So, I guess it’s different from a situation in which there is a bad result for each person or group involved. Am I right?

Hello to all, I always thought that the opposite of "win-win" situation is "lose-lose" situation, but I've learned that lose-lose situation is one where a…

what is the opposite way of an expression of “win-win situation”?

I am just trying to find out an expression that is an opposite of “win-win situation? when you are having problems or in troubles and trying to get out or to solve those problems in multiple way but none of them will work on these issues. What kind of an expression would fit? I thought was simply “lose-lose situation” but did not find it in the dictionary.

Thank you very much.

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it’s quite simply a

lose-lose situation.

Of or being a situation in which the outcome is detrimental or disadvantageous to each of two often opposing sides. (ADH)

This is a completely common business phrase.

(My brother would joke that he “only likes win-win situations .. wherein he wins on a deal .. and then wins again on it!” 🙂 )

A situation in which one can’t win. For example, If I invite Aunt Jane, Mother will be angry, and if I don’t, I lose Jane’s friendship—I’m damned if I do and damned if I don’t.

A positive sum or win–win situation produces a mutually beneficial result, while in a negative sum situation, the contestants experience mutual loss.

Lose-lose seems to be the best option, and it does appear in many dictionaries. Or just say, “It was a situation where neither party won.”

I agree you can say “lose-lose situation” — it’s fine! But I also have another option to offer you:

Everyone loses.

For example, In such-and-so situation, by far the ideal outcome would be to settle out of court. Going to hearing would mean everybody loses.

It’s a little hyperbolic, but you could be describing a:

Doomsday Scenario

1.2 A time or event of crisis or great danger:

[as modifier]: ‘in all the concern over greenhouse warming, one doomsday scenario stands out’

First, the expression is “win/win.” People have forgotten the difference between hyphens and slashes, apparently.

Second, the reason “win/win” is used in the first place is that the normal outcome is win/lose; that is the opposite of win/win. In most two-sided contests, one side wins and the other loses. “Win/win” is used to convey the idea of an outcome that defies this norm.

More about two-sided situations, slashes, and hyphens here.

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